Nevertheless, a fair reading of the two statements suggests delay rather than complete failure but there is a feeling of despair in Mr Barnier's remarks. Hopefully, the talks will proceed during the autumn and reach the point where EU negotiators become able to recommend that negotiations move on to matters such as the future trading relationship. As required by the 29th April EU Council Guidelines, the talks have so far been confined to Citizen's Rights, the position of Northern Ireland and the financial settlement.
Mr Davis said - "Now while there is still work to be done, much work to be done, we have come a long way. And it is important to recognise the significant progress we have made since June." Mr Barnier said - "We worked constructively this week. We clarified certain points. But without making any great steps forward. We still have a common goal: the desire to reach an agreement on the UK's withdrawal and to outline our future relationship, when the time comes."
Addendum 20th October - David Davis - update to the House of Commons on Round 5 of the Brexit negotiations
EU Fact sheets:
Factsheets have been published by the EU Commission on Brexit Negotiations Citizen's Rights; Northern Ireland and the Financial Settlement. Links to these are available on the same webpage as Mr Barnier's statement.
There is pressure for the government to release studies it has undertaken about the possible impact of Brexit on various sectors of the economy. Up to now the government has claimed that release of the papers could impact adversely on the Brexit negotiations. Critics of this position argue that the government is keeping the material secret purely for political reasons.
The Guardian - David Davis faces legal threat over secret reports on Brexit impact
The Guardian - MPs urge David Davis to publish Brexit impact assessments
Recent days have seen an increasing amount of talk about a "no deal Brexit." The consequences of that for almost every aspect of modern life could well be severe as, for example, this statement by the British Airline Pilot's Association (BALPA) notes.
Article 50 is clear:
"The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period."
Hence, leaving aside the possibility of an extension to the 2 year period, the UK will leave on 29th March 2017 if there is no withdrawal agreement. If there is such an agreement then the date it comes into force will apply.
Second EU Referendum?
At Prime Minister's Question Time on 11th October, was asked by Mr Ian Blackford MP how she would vote if there were to be another referendum on EU membership. Mrs May responded by stating categorically that "there is no second referendum."
Whether there should be a second referendum is a matter of politics and the outcome of such a referendum, were it to be held, is a matter of speculation. There appears to be some reason to suppose that the 2016 referendum outcome might be reversed but that is by no means certain.
Legally, there could be a second referendum if Parliament were to enact legislation to require one to be held and a Bill is presently before the House of Lords with a view to achieving such a referendum. It is the European Union (Referendum on the Withdrawal Agreement) Bill - sponsored by the Liberal Democrat peer - Baroness Ludford. If enacted, those aged 16 and 17 would be able to vote in the referendum as well as British citizens who live abroad.
This referendum would obviously be held when details of the Withdrawal Agreement were known. the Bill stipulates that voting could be as late as 28th February 2019. The 2 year period specified in Article 50 expires on 29th March 2019.
As was the case with the EU (Referendum) Act 2015, there is no provision in the Bill to make the outcome binding on Ministers and there is no provision to require any specific referendum outcome such as requiring (say) a two-thirds vote in favour of leaving or a vote in favour in each of the constituent nations of the UK.
The Bill is highly unlikely to receive government support. A second reading date has yet to be fixed.
Unilateral Revocability of the Article 50 notice:
Baroness Ludford's Bill appears to be based on an assumption that the UK can unilaterally revoke its Article 50 notice but whether this is possible has been a matter of considerable debate in legal circles. This earlier post (23rd July) sought to collate various views. There is also this more recent contribution by Cormac Mac Amhlaigh - Can Brexit be Stopped under EU Law. Only the Court of Justice of the EU could give an authoritative legal answer to this point.
In the Supreme Court of the UK the Miller and Dos Santos litigation (Judgment) proceeded on a basis agreed between the parties that the Article 50 notice could not be withdrawn. Para. 26 of the judgment states:
"In these proceedings, it is common ground that notice under article 50(2) (which we shall call “Notice”) cannot be given in qualified or conditional terms and that, once given, it cannot be withdrawn. Especially as it is the Secretary of State’s case that, even if this common ground is mistaken, it would make no difference to the outcome of these proceedings, we are content to proceed on the basis that that is correct, without expressing any view of our own on either point. It follows from this that once the United Kingdom gives Notice, it will inevitably cease at a later date to be a member of the European Union and a party to the EU Treaties."
Committee for Exiting the European Union:
The House of Commons Committee for Exiting the European Union took evidence on 11th October about the European Union (Withdrawal) Bill - the session may be viewed via Parliament TV
The list of witnesses and the purposes of the session are set out here. The witnesses were:
- Sir Stephen Laws, Former First Parliamentary Counsel
- Sir Konrad Schiemann, Former judge, Court of Justice of the European Union and the Court of Appeal
- Dr Charlotte O'Brien, Senior Lecturer, York Law School
- Professor Richard Ekins, Head of Policy Exchange's Judicial Power Project and Associate Professor, University of Oxford